Good Morning 412: Roanoke Doesn't Want the Platinum

If you thought the the Robert Morris Penn State first quarter was bad…

Via Laxpower:

SALEM, Va. — Roanoke reeled off 71 shots in a 30-2 win over Randolph at Kerr Stadium on Wednesday afternoon. The Maroons improved to 3-0 overall, 1-0 in the ODAC, while the Wildcats dropped to 0-1 in their season-opener.

Roanoke, ranked fifth in the USILA Top-20 poll, got off to a hot start in its third-straight game with 20 goals or more this season. The Maroons scored an unofficial school-record 18 goals in the first quarter as they cruised to win their ODAC-opener.

The 30 goals scored by the Maroons were the most since the 2008 season, defeating Hood, 30-2. Roanoke went 16 for 21 on clear attempts and won 25 of 36 face-offs. The Maroons collected a season-best 58 groundballs to the Wildcats 17 on the afternoon. Of the 71 shots, 41 were on goal while allowing only 12.

18 first quarter goals?

Hot pot of coffee!

But was 30 necessary?

Always a delicate situation.

Your thoughts?

Brilliant like that Irish Beer

Marketing wizards.

Shady Side Academy is a prep school just outside of Pittsburgh.

Very good lacrosse program although we never lost to them during our tenure.

But holy, what genius signed off on this advertising campaign?

Thursday Morning Banger

Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness (Steve Aoki Remix)

Hard Hitting Analysis

It’s all about being as subtle as a surgeon’s scalpel.

Notes

Curtis Dickson only scored once against Hopkins, that’s how slow down a finisher

Colorado beat N. Colorado 13-2 last night

Very jealous of the little weekend Colorado had on the slopes

Not sure what to think of Kanye’s new blog but the Coldest Winter video is sensational

  • Scott from Baltimore

    The greatest thing about the Roanoke press release is the fact that they pointed out that the 58 ground balls that Roanoke had were a season best. Umm of course it was, you’ve only played 1 game. Do you also want to point out that the 30 goals was a season best or perhaps that you’re averaging 30 goals a game. Please come on. For games like this, I really admire Coach Tierney at Denver and his 19 goal rule he was able to implement at Princeton back in their day of dominance.

  • Guest

    “The Maroons improved to 3-0 overall, 1-0 in the ODAC, while the Wildcats dropped to 0-1 in their season-opener”

    Reading is fundamental.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t necesarily 100% look down on programs who do this in NCAA play. In the MCLA, where the playing fields are drastically different, and not every program tries to frame itself as “Varsity” it may be a different equation.

    In the NCAA, every program is varsity, whether you finish 1st or 101st, you still recruit, your players still don’t pay a dime to play, and your still held to the highest standard. If you get 30 dropped on you, its no ones fault but your own.

    If I’m a 3rd string midfielder at Roanoke, and I get an opportunity to score a goal in an NCAA match, I could care a less if we are winning by 100, I’m still going to the cage. After scoring 18 in one quarter, I can almost guarantee backups were in for the 2nd quarter, maybe even the last few minutes of the 1st.

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    I always thought the 19 rule by Tierney was a larger slap in the face (in a
    good way) than running up the score.

    Its 50% showing mercy 50% being ruthless.

    In early season games, you need to run your offense having to stall so as
    not to hurt the other team’s feelings does nothing for you later in the
    season.

  • The One

    You’re out of your mind if you think D3 players “don’t pay a dime to play.” Its not on the MCLA level, but much of the gear is funded internally through fundraisers and/or straight payment. Only the top D3 programs have the resources to fully fund a program.

  • Anonymous

    Do fundraisers cost players anything?

    I can tell you from my experiencing playing on a DIII team and several players I know that play on them as well, all of which are mid-low level DIII lacrosse that it costs virtually nothing.

    Fundraisers don’t take money out of my pocket. And I was not asked to pay for travel, meals while traveling, equipment, etc.

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    When I was at Wooster we had to purchase our own sticks everything else covered or optional and there wasn’t that much that was optional.

    The optional clothing order in the fall.

    Extra food or drinks on the highway during travel. Most of the team we used our meal plan swipes to stock up on drinks and snacks for the bus.

    As SirLaxin22 suggests, virtually nothing. We already had sticks (this was before the rule change), everyone had money for extra food if they really wanted/needed it, and the clothing was appropriately priced that everyone could make purchases.

    There never was an instance of someone needing financial help to be apart of the program.

  • http://www.lacrosseallstars.com Connor Wilson

    I graduated back in ’03 but we paid for all of our own equipment although we got discounts on sticks through a local retailer. You could use a school helmet but they were usually 3-4 years old so we usually bought our own there too. We paid for our spring break trip ourselves as well. We did get per diem $ for (food, etc) our spring break trip but that usually came out to about $70. The trip cost over $400 at a minimum. We bought our own shorts so we could keep a pair as well. This was at a top 20 NESCAC school.
    I think the school contributes more now and alumni and parent donations have increased in the past few years easing the pressure on the players to come up with $ but DIII lax certainly doesn’t cost nothing for everyone out there. Some teams get taken care of, some don’t. Some teams take it on themselves for everyone to have perfectly matching gear. Others don’t, but I would bet you can count on both hands the number of DIII teams that pay for absolutely EVERYTHING.

    That was a nitpicky comment but whatever…

  • Anonymous

    Looks like I’ve sparked an interesting conversation.

    I guess from further thought and this conversation I think what you get covered has less to do with your schools ranking and more to do with your schools athletic department.

    Like I said, we got all of our equipment, apparel, travel, boarding, meals, etc paid for. We did a fundraiser every year that raised a good chunk of money that would be used towards spring break, but that was it. We bussed everywhere, and flew on SB. Sometimes we would be asked to cover our snacks on the roads, sometimes we would not.

    I know a kid who plays at Ithaca, and thinking back, I think they pay for some of their stuff as well, and don’t get new equipment all too often.

    Certainly would be interesting to do a study across DIII and see who is paying and who isn’t and how its related to rank.

  • Scott from Baltimore

    The greatest thing about the Roanoke press release is the fact that they pointed out that the 58 ground balls that Roanoke had were a season best. Umm of course it was, you've only played 1 game. Do you also want to point out that the 30 goals was a season best or perhaps that you're averaging 30 goals a game. Please come on. For games like this, I really admire Coach Tierney at Denver and his 19 goal rule he was able to implement at Princeton back in their day of dominance.

  • WVBlueKnight

    I played at Geneseo from 05-08 and we payed $400 for spring break, which was subsidized by mind-numbing fundraisers (selling concessions at cheerleading comps)…we got $7 per meal on spring break, doesn’t go very far at Disneyworld…we got free t-shirts every year, but that was it…senior year every team going to Disney got free Champion gear, so that was a nice treat for us…I used the same helmet all 4 years, and didn’t get to keep it until I asked my coach on alumni weekend…so I would say D3 players still end up spending a decent amount of money between sticks and other expenses

  • Anonymous

    have you seen your boys girl? WOW..

    http://www.bustedcoverage.com/?p=26448

  • james

    I actually get upset when teams let off the accelerator in game situations. Its one thing to not pull your starters, but if your backups backups are scoring the rock, so be it.

    The job of an offense is to score points, the job of a defense is to stop them. Apparently Roanoke does their job properly.

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    She is not ugly.

  • Guest

    “The Maroons improved to 3-0 overall, 1-0 in the ODAC, while the Wildcats dropped to 0-1 in their season-opener”Reading is fundamental.

  • Anonymous

    to say the least haha.

  • SirLaxin22

    I don't necesarily 100% look down on programs who do this in NCAA play. In the MCLA, where the playing fields are drastically different, and not every program tries to frame itself as “Varsity” it may be a different equation.In the NCAA, every program is varsity, whether you finish 1st or 101st, you still recruit, your players still don't pay a dime to play, and your still held to the highest standard. If you get 30 dropped on you, its no ones fault but your own.If I'm a 3rd string midfielder at Roanoke, and I get an opportunity to score a goal in an NCAA match, I could care a less if we are winning by 100, I'm still going to the cage. After scoring 18 in one quarter, I can almost guarantee backups were in for the 2nd quarter, maybe even the last few minutes of the 1st.

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    I always thought the 19 rule by Tierney was a larger slap in the face (in agood way) than running up the score.Its 50% showing mercy 50% being ruthless.In early season games, you need to run your offense having to stall so asnot to hurt the other team's feelings does nothing for you later in theseason.

  • The One

    You're out of your mind if you think D3 players “don't pay a dime to play.” Its not on the MCLA level, but much of the gear is funded internally through fundraisers and/or straight payment. Only the top D3 programs have the resources to fully fund a program.

  • SirLaxin22

    Do fundraisers cost players anything?I can tell you from my experiencing playing on a DIII team and several players I know that play on them as well, all of which are mid-low level DIII lacrosse that it costs virtually nothing.Fundraisers don't take money out of my pocket. And I was not asked to pay for travel, meals while traveling, equipment, etc.

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    When I was at Wooster we had to purchase our own sticks everything else covered or optional and there wasn't that much that was optional.The optional clothing order in the fall.Extra food or drinks on the highway during travel. Most of the team we used our meal plan swipes to stock up on drinks and snacks for the bus.

  • http://www.lacrosseallstars.com Connor Wilson

    I graduated back in '03 but we paid for all of our own equipment although we got discounts on sticks through a local retailer. You could use a school helmet but they were usually 3-4 years old so we usually bought our own there too. We paid for our spring break trip ourselves as well. We did get per diem $ for (food, etc) our spring break trip but that usually came out to about $70. The trip cost over $400 at a minimum. We bought our own shorts so we could keep a pair as well. This was at a top 20 NESCAC school.I think the school contributes more now and alumni and parent donations have increased in the past few years easing the pressure on the players to come up with $ but DIII lax certainly doesn't cost nothing for everyone out there. Some teams get taken care of, some don't. Some teams take it on themselves for everyone to have perfectly matching gear. Others don't, but I would bet you can count on both hands the number of DIII teams that pay for absolutely EVERYTHING.That was a nitpicky comment but whatever…

  • SirLaxin22

    Looks like I've sparked an interesting conversation.I guess from further thought and this conversation I think what you get covered has less to do with your schools ranking and more to do with your schools athletic department.Like I said, we got all of our equipment, apparel, travel, boarding, meals, etc paid for. We did a fundraiser every year that raised a good chunk of money that would be used towards spring break, but that was it. We bussed everywhere, and flew on SB. Sometimes we would be asked to cover our snacks on the roads, sometimes we would not.I know a kid who plays at Ithaca, and thinking back, I think they pay for some of their stuff as well, and don't get new equipment all too often.Certainly would be interesting to do a study across DIII and see who is paying and who isn't and how its related to rank.

  • WVBlueKnight

    I played at Geneseo from 05-08 and we payed $400 for spring break, which was subsidized by mind-numbing fundraisers (selling concessions at cheerleading comps)…we got $7 per meal on spring break, doesn't go very far at Disneyworld…we got free t-shirts every year, but that was it…senior year every team going to Disney got free Champion gear, so that was a nice treat for us…I used the same helmet all 4 years, and didn't get to keep it until I asked my coach on alumni weekend…so I would say D3 players still end up spending a decent amount of money between sticks and other expenses

  • laxdogger71

    have you seen your boys girl? WOW..http://www.bustedcoverage.com/?p=26448

  • james

    I actually get upset when teams let off the accelerator in game situations. Its one thing to not pull your starters, but if your backups backups are scoring the rock, so be it. The job of an offense is to score points, the job of a defense is to stop them. Apparently Roanoke does their job properly.

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    She is not ugly.

  • laxdogger71

    to say the least haha.

  • Frank Clark

    This isnt little league lacrosse (and no I dont think everyone should get a trophey). MCLA/ NCAA your all big boys. You scheduled the game. Be prepared or be prepared to take the 30 goals. Besides if looking at it from the other side I would rather you keep playing then play catch.

  • Frank Clark

    This isnt little league lacrosse (and no I dont think everyone should get a trophey). MCLA/ NCAA your all big boys. You scheduled the game. Be prepared or be prepared to take the 30 goals. Besides if looking at it from the other side I would rather you keep playing then play catch.