2012 Preseason Top 10

For whom the bell tolls. 2011 is gone. Enter 2012.

2011 is in the books. What can we expect 2012 to look like? Let’s take a look at some very early prognostications. Here’s what we did. We took the LaxPower top 21 and removed Michigan. The Wolverines still finished with the number one ranking scoring 1.12 higher than second place Arizona State. We then looked at the final poll on College Lax published May 3rd. And then finally, we considered all graduation losses.

1. BYU 20-3

Key losses: Tyler Monteath, Dan Cole

Top returners: Ted Ferrin, Andrew Harding, Corey Gunderson

Comments: On the paper this was one of the youngest title teams in MCLA history, but with the culture at BYU we know that’s not the case. The top 3 scorers (Ferrin, Harding, Gunderson)  all began their careers in 2007 and they’ll be back in 2012. That fire power can make up for the losses of Monteath and Cole in the middle not to mention anybody else that returns from their missions and any recruits that show up in the fall. BYU will be a favorite to repeat.

2. Chapman 14-4

Key losses: William Morrison, Spencer Halverson

Top returners: Andrew Clayton, Madison Fiore, Matt Walrath

Comments: This was a very young squad struggling to find themselves after the departure of Martin and they still reached the MCLA quarters. They have special players at the attack position, a seasoned goalie, and the de facto top pole in the country coming back. If they stay healthy and aren’t competing in the title game in San Diego/Florida/Alaska in 2012 I would be shocked.

3. Arizona State 14-5

Key losses: Eric Nelson, Ryan Westfall

Top returners: Dylan Westfall, 4 freshmen in the top 8 in scoring

Comments: It took Danowski graduating from Duke for the Devils to win the title, maybe the final offensive minded Westfall leaving will be the magic potion for the Devils. You have to wonder if ASU would have been able to beat BYU if they hadn’t played their personal Super Bowl the day prior.

4. Texas 13-1

Key losses: Stefan Knipp

Top returners: Johnny McKnight, Spencer Price

Comments: Despite a perfect regular season, the Horns were generously given the 13th seed in the tournament. They’ll need to schedule some tougher OOC games to move in the polls, but they have the talent to play with the top teams in the country. They have an elite player at each position and most importantly those elite players have experience which, as we saw this past weekend, wins big games. Don’t be surprised when Texas gets snubbed in the first poll and lands at 17 and goes on a revenge tour.

5. Cal Poly 14-6

Key losses: Matt Rudow

Top returners: Scott Herberer, Matt Graupmann

Comments: No one likes playing Cal Poly, but people will want nothing to do with the Mustangs in 2012 with Herber and Graupmann returning. They might be the best one two punch not named Ferrin and Harding in the country. They had some unexpected losses this season and still earned a 9th seed because the program commands so much respect. They’ll walk to the WCLL title again but expect a bigger regular season and a higher seed come May. This team will be in the title hunt.

6. Colorado State 15-3

Key losses: Cooper Kehoe, Garrett Fugier, Andy Flax

Top returners: Austin Fisher and Alex Devlin

Comments: The Rams offense this season wasn’t the shock and awe extravaganza from days gone by in the Fort. Who will replace Cooper Kehoe’s production and leadership? The Michigan streak has really hurt the State’s image as the bad boys of the MCLA. Maybe that attitude returns next year.

7. Colorado 11-6

Key losses: James Blackburn

Top returners: Jack Cranston, Bradley Macnee

Comments: A first round exit in 2011 was a bit of a shock to all and should galvanize the roster returning to Boulder more so than the coaching change in 2010. It will be up to D1 transfers Cranston and Beimford to play like former D1 players if the Buffs hope to get over the hump and avoid regular season losses to conference foes BYU and CSU. You never know who will show up in January to give them some extra fire power.

8. UCSB 10-7

Key losses: Jamie Bridgman

Top returners: Aaron Hemon, CJ Jacobs, Andrew Noto

Comments: Back from the dead in 2012? The loss of top producer, Bridgman, will require Hemon and Jacobs to step up but it would appear the Gauchos have righted the ship under Jaffe. With a large core returning, they will be back in the mix in the SLC and national title hunt. If only they would return to their yellow lids next season.

9. South Carolina 12-3

Key losses: Shaun Lynch

Top returners: top 9 scorers

Comments: Everyone hated this team in 2011. In 2012, you won’t be able to ignore them. They return too much talent not to be in contention and when your top talent is from Virginia and Maryland you’re going to be in serious contention. However, they will have to schedule OOC games if they want to receive the votes they deserve.

10. Buffalo 11-4

Key losses: Kurt Stavdal (false alarm, Stavdal returns per Grand Island, NY insider)

Top returners: Ryan Grogan, Alex Hultgren, Brian Powell

Comments: Lose by 3 in the first round to eventual tournament runner up Arizona State? Not a bad showing from the western New York side. Only graduating 57 points and returning the top 3 scorers will keep this team in contention through 2012. A slightly tougher OOC schedule could vault their tournament seed should they decide to top Boston College for the PCLL title again.

On the Edge

Clemson – If leading scorer Will Patch uses his final year of eligibility then Clemson will be very scary in 2012.

Simon Fraser – If anyone can figure out how to play just a touch more defense in Vancouver, the Clan’s offense will be enough to carry them into the top 10 and maybe deep into the tournament.

Virginia Tech – Should have been in the original post. Another young SELC team that will be up there if they can figure out how to replace their goalie.

Give me your top 10 or top 5 if you’re lazy in the comments section.

  • Anonymous

    No love for Utah?

  • http://twitter.com/mband Mike Band

     Your love affair with South Carolina’s meaningless numbers continues to baffle America.

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    Top players graduated.

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    I bet you would, Panama Red.

  • Anonymous

    i don’t get it either….so they return everyone from a team that wasn’t any good this year….look at their last 5 games when they played decent teams… lost to clemson, lost to VT twice, beat two very mediocre teams by a goal. 

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KV336FAAJQX4SOB5IT3WOTO2I4 Michael

    you left out 3 quarterfinalists

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    Wonder why.

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    You’re assuming they won’t get any better and all teams ahead of them aren’t
    graduating their talent.

  • Anonymous

    they could get a lot better and fall into the average category.  what did they do of any significance this year?

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    What was South Carolina’s record in 2010? What was South Carolina’s record
    in 2011? Why is it so inconceivable to you that they could continue to
    improve with the entire team returning?

  • http://twitter.com/410_lax Jake Springer

    I agree with your sentiment that USC doesn’t get enough love nationally. However, they have to prove that they can win at least 1 game in the SELC tourney for them to crack your top 25, let alone your preseason top 10. Even with the abundance of talent they’re getting from the best lacrosse city in the country, there is a monumental difference between a team’s potential and a team’s national ranking. Just because a high school football recruit has freakish athleticism, a mind like a sponge, and can throw a ball 70 yards doesn’t mean he should be in the top 10 Rivals recruits. First, he needs to convert that potential into results on the field against good competition. If South Carolina starts 2012 with a few convincing wins against top tier SELC teams and at least 1 or 2 traditionally strong out-of-conference teams, then we will talk about whether they should be #9 or #10. Until then, they should be no where close to #9 in the country.

    As for the top 10, I’ll put myself out there and give it the ol college try:

    1. BYU
    2. Chapman
    3. Arizona State
    4. Colorado State
    5. Cal Poly
    6. Texas
    7. Colorado
    8. SUNY Buffalo
    9. Clemson
    10. UCSB

  • Anonymous

    they played a pitiful schedule.  beat up on bottom tier D1 teams.  Their best victory is a 9-8 win over tennessee who was 5-9.  They were exposed in the 2nd half of the season.

  • Anonymous

    Just a heads-up on Buffalo… they don’t lose Stavdal, he is a junior (the MCLA program had it right, the website had it wrong.)  They also return their leading scorer from 09 and 10, Tommy Sudek, who was in Australia this spring.

  • Anonymous

    Also, Casey Rich from BYU will make that team even better 

  • http://twitter.com/chrisosip16 chris osip

    South Carolina and Clemson will not make the tourny next year, you can quote me on that. See jamlando’s argument. If SFU can get more than 17 players on their team they will be a force. Buffalo is intriguing, however. Texas is a solid team but shouldn’t be ranked higher than 9 until they beat one of the big boys.

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    The argument that says they were bad in the past and therefore cannot
    possibly improve ever?

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  • http://twitter.com/chrisosip16 chris osip

    And you’re assuming that they will continue to improve greatly, which is an extremely difficult thing for a program to maintain.  Their jump between 2010 and 2011 is a great accomplishment, and yes, they do have a lot of their talent coming back, but the lack of experience in OOC games provides us no reason to rank them in the top 10. Many teams that didn’t make the tourny would have had a great record in the SELC.

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    And you’re assuming that they will never be a top 10 team because they
    haven’t been a top 10 team. And that’s okay because that it is the
    assumption the entire league works from.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/t.w.sullivan1 Tim

     If you’re taking into account how they’ll finish the season, Michigan State could be up there. Without Michigan, they can run up a good record in the CCLA (and possibly nab an OOC win or two – though Michigan is no longer around to wear out the opposition the day before). From a strict power ranking standpoint, they’re probably a mid-teens team though.

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    It will be interesting to follow State in the Post Michigan era. Will they
    strive as hard to develop now that the giant in the room is gone. Of course
    you could say that about any top 20 team now.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KV336FAAJQX4SOB5IT3WOTO2I4 Michael

    im not sure why. if losing seniors is your main criteria then colorado shouldnt be in the top 10 after being in the quarters in 2010, losing very little and then getting bounced in the first round in 2011 and then losing much more talent going into 2012

  • http://twitter.com/cvas Alex Cervasio

    Your lack of knowledge of the SELC will continue to hurt you. Hopefully next Spring will open your eyes to the mediocrity..

    Here’s my Top 25:
    1. BYU
    2. Chapman
    3. Arizona State
    4. Oregon
    5. Colorado State
    6. Boston College
    7. UCSB
    8. Colorado
    9. Texas
    10. Cal Poly
    11. Michigan State
    12. Buffalo
    13. Florida State
    14. Minn-Duluth
    15. Illinois
    16. Simon Fraser
    17. Virginia Tech
    18. Loyola Marymount
    19. Utah
    20. Florida
    21. Stanford
    22. Chico State
    23. Clemson
    24. South Carolina
    25. Sonoma State

  • http://412.LaxAllStars.com 412 Lax

    You claim the talent in the SELC is mediocre but you put 5 SELC teams in your top 25. Is the MCLA as a whole that bad in your opinion?

  • Anonymous

    Where do you rank Georgia??? They stepped it up in the second half of the season and they are returning all of their main players.  I would have them in front of Florida and South Carolina at least, maybe even Clemson if they don’t return Will Patch.  Yeah they lost by 4 to Clemson, but I saw that game and it was 13-12 in the last few minutes of the game.  Penalties killed them at the end which Clemson capitalized on.  It was back and forth all game.  They beat Virginia Tech also.  Lost to a very good UCF team that arguably had the best player in the league, which was 12-10 and that was a nail biter as well.  I can see them stepping up huge next year.

  • http://twitter.com/chrisosip16 chris osip

    Great top 25, i personally think BC is a little high and would move buffalo to 9 but everything else seems very logical.

  • http://twitter.com/chrisosip16 chris osip

    He only put one of those SELC teams in the top 15; Florida State at 13. And yes, MCLA teams outside the top 15 are the definition of mediocrity.

  • Anonymous

    Look people are going to rag on me here but UMD should and will be a top 10 team in 2012.
     
    I know this argument is flawed but I just graduated from this team who was 30 some seconds away from beating the eventual champ in Provo, and who also gave CSU a hell of a game as the “15″ seed. Every game with the exception of Utah (I don’t have a answer for that game) they were in the 4th quarter. Oregon, BYU, CSU, CU, MSU

    They dont graduate alot. Returning first team AA goalie and FOS. Not to mention entire starting attack unit back. 

    Everyone rags on us and the UMLL but they Dogs will make there way back next year.

  • Anonymous

    also not to mention entire starting D unit. 

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  • http://twitter.com/cvas Alex Cervasio

    Yes, the MCLA as a whole does not represent a top level of lacrosse. The top 25 programs in the MCLA are on par with many D3 and D2 teams. The Top 15 programs could directly compete with many Top 25 D3 and D2 teams, the Top 5 can compete with almost any program in the NCAA.

    I included 5 SELC teams, only 1 is tournament worthy, the other 4 are just mediocre. 

    Georgia should also be considered, as well as a handful of other teams across the MCLA. 

    But once you get out of the Top 30, the teams in the MCLA are bad in my opinion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U5LZKAM7HTSB56FYVDBVJZHM7U john

    From what I have heard bridgeman might be back for another season… how would that affect your rankings for the gauchos?

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